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  weird questions people ask you at the KH?

  by Truthexplorer in

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  2. experiences

  so i meet sister ott zealot.

  she says ah .... its lovely to see you; how are you doing.

  i said yeah i'm fine thank you!

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  William Penwell

  Most dubs are weird.
  
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  I once knew a dub who screwed a "worldly" man out of a large chunk of money and expected this "worldly" man to just forgive and forget as that is the "Christian" thing to do. There are a lot of dubs that are only in it to use the other dubs for what they can get.
  
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  Golden Rule: Pure Garbage?

  by willmarite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.

  she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.

  i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.

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  I once hear it said that the "do onto others what you want them to do to you", should be "do onto other what they want you to do to them" as not everyone thinks the same way that you do.
  
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  Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

  " (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

  they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

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  Yeah three elders, I agree with the other posters they were trying to get something on you. I have never heard of three elders calling on someone unless it is judicial crap.
  
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  Merritt Island Shopping Mall in Florida allows the harmful cult to spread their propaganda to their unsuspecting customers

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  merritt island shopping mall in florida allows the harmful pedophile protecting cult to spread their propaganda to their unsuspecting customers...here's contact info for management http://www.merrittsquaremall.com/info/management.

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  I didn't think I would see the day that the dubs would stoop this low and actually consort with this wicked system of things evil corporate Babylon The Great.
  
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  Is it common for old men to marry young JW?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  i left in the 90's and marriage partners were similar in age at my former congregation.

  i ran into a former jw friend from my childhood.

  i haven't seen him in 15 years.

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  I remember the last congregation I attended and their was some sister that would have been about my age late 30's early 40's and she wasn't bad looking. She was married to this elder guy that had to be in his 70's at the time. He walked with a cane, looked more like her father than her husband. Now if this works for them fine but you can't tell me there are not times she wonders what she got herself into.
  
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  Apostasy Trial - Part 2 - Satan is Using Google

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq

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  Yeah here we go they got him when he admitted that he didn't believe that Satan was behind everything that is bad. Typical kangaroo court. The elders are only there to get enough s*it so they can DF him. I do not recognize their authority, they can do what ever they like.
  

  Oh yeah I want to add that when he said he read the bible from cover to cover, well this is a no no. I recall when I tried to just read to bible on my own, my ex told me that i wasn't supposed to read it on my own without help from WT study aids/publications.
  
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Maybe not but the effect it had on my parents that although the belief had changed they still firmly believed that the end would come by the autumn of 1975. My father had a good job and was reasonably intelligent and had served as a servant and elder conducting the Watchtower study with pioneer children. In the year that this Watchtower change came about he made a decision to move and simplify his life somewhat which would enable him and us to do more in the 'truth' which we did. We didn't even have a television for some years. However if he had retained the house he sold then his estate would have been worth at least 4 times what it was when he died. His children lost out in a financial way but not just us as my children recently pointed out how it has and will effect them. This doesn't include the fact that I turned down a pension policy many years ago because I wouldn't be needing one due to the belief in the generation that will not pass away. I finished my education early due to the 1975 so as to pioneer. Not for my own personal gain. But I have also had to argue that it was due to the teachings of the Watchtower and not something I or my parents read into it that I made the decisions in my life. When I was leaving the JW and the elders came they clearly stated it was nothing to do with the Watchtower. Admittedly I could be wrong on some things.

  How can the WT claim it was just a few zealous ones that miss read that they were saying when in fact you can read thousands of stories like this that are very similar. My family story is much the same. My father sold the family house in 1974 because he was told to simplify his life. I think he regretted that decision for the rest of his life as at the time he was still a middle aged working man with a family and at least another ten years of working. He sold the house before the big real estate boom and lost out on thousands of dollars that could have went toward his retirement. So when some dub comes on here trying to minimize the WT culpability in all of this, they are full of it. It just makes me mad when someone tries to justify that cults action.
  
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  That 1976 Watchtower article that chastised those who had sold up their homes and pioneered pre-1975 might have achieved some good had it said the same thing several years beforehand.

  This is a big reason why my father sold the family home in 1974. Well the joke is on the borg as he did not have as much money to leave them when he passed away.
  
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  Videolink speech by a HQ member this Saturday

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so this saturday we are going to have some kind of videolink speech, by a james mantz from headquarters apparantly.

  how very exciting... or not.

  thats what my mum said anyway, and i just thought like " yeah right" i can t remember we have ever had it before, is it a new take?

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  Do they still tell the R&F that this part is very important and not to miss it?